Maytag set I would buy
I almost did buy these but found a set that was
a tad newer and a little less money. Stainless tub, fills with real water
not HE water vapor, very easy to service and use. The front angle is
unique - have you ever stood in front of a washer or dryer and leaned
against it? This design makes it easy on your hands. The controls are so
well positoned and marked. Easy to clean lint filter in dryer. Washer tend
to retain more lint though than many others but the dryer gets that out. I
think the business that is selling these and has other sets to choose from
has a good reputation and offers 90 day warranty.
GE dark gray w/d fantastic find
appear often and when they do they get snapped up fast as they are not
the same old boring white. The panel has a great design. Unfortunately I
would never buy these as they are the newer types heavy on the
computerized circut boards. You can see this at a glance as there is a row
of led's over the washer control knob.
image was on
Kenmore stacked w/d in GRAY
rare find. Seen on
Offerup. Price is high though at $800 but it did sell.
This looks like a good front load Maytag set
One thing to
look for on these
is if the tub looks centered, if they are more used and well worn the tubs
drop down. Found at OfferUp location Beaumont, California.
Rest In Peace Maytag Atlantis
So very sad to see this owner of this fantastic
washer resorted to repurposing the stainless steel tub to make into a
firepit instead of simply repairing this amazing machine. It's the last of
the good top loaders that actually fills with water, not water vapor as in
They'd have to pay me to take a fronter
After many hours of searching for a washer I
decided strongly against buying a used front loader. They are all too
risky to buy at lower cost used as the bearings in the drum go bad and the
spider in the back gets all corroded and weak. Usually people just want to
get rid of them. They might work well enough but I just can't see taking
the risk. It's very very expensive to fix front loaders between issues
with circuit boards and the bearings and entire drum assembly with new
spider arm are completely cost prohibitive. People just go out and buy a
new one for $1000. It's cheaper for them to do that if they can afford it.
Over 5 years that's a mere $16.66 per month. Dont' get stuck with someone
elses upcoming problem. Old Maytags are cheaper to service and when you do
service them they can last another 15 years without much if any service is
what I have seen and read. If you go another 15 years with a $300 repair
on a used $300 decent shape washer, that only costs you $3.33 per month.
That is why these units are harder to find. Shop till you drop and then
shop some more and avoid temptation on that pretty front loader you see is
only $200. Then when you see that Maytag bargain built before 2004 snatch
it up after giving it a good check up. The old Kenmores are also easy and
cheap to service. I never liked the drum on those, they are very deep, you
have to stoop down and reach way down into it to get the clothes. Old
Maytag drums are wider and not as deep. Much easier. Good luck.
Maytag commercial washer & dryer $80
Instead of watching your washer or dryer tumble
the clothes in this one you watch TV commercials. No actually it's just a
newer model computerized drive you insane stupid smart model that seems
like it could be an incredible deal though it has an error code
as seen on Offerup.
There's nothing quite as stupid as having to deal with computer code when
all you want to do is have water mix with soap and slosh around to clean
your clothes, then merely rinse and spin the water away.
They say it's $3000 new and they just need it moved so offering it at $80.
Buyer beware. The electronic panel could need replacement at a cost of
$1000. Or maybe it's a simple fix if you are handy and know electronics.
Sometimes all a circuit board needs is one resistor resoldered. Finding
which one though could require hiring a rocket scientist though. I am 100%
sold on older non-computerized washers and dryers now. These new Maytags
might be made in China. We can hope that Trump tarrifs get washers made in
America again. This would be better for the environment also as it would
save us from transporting all this massive tonnage across entire oceans
which run on fossil fuels. Why is it in all these save energy discussions
never is there talk about how much energy is wasted by making things in
other countries then shipping them all over the place?
I'm done shopping
Settled in on a great deal for a made in the USA
Newton Iowa Atlantis by Maytag set. These are the last of the good washing
machines. It fills the tub with water not water vapor like the new front
loader HE models. It has stainless steel drum, a finger faucet so you can
clean your hands of soap, extra rinse and extra spin option, prewash,
presoak, presoak only, 3 speeds, easy to use mechanical dial selectors, and the dryer has auto sensing and
displays status. This washer does not have evil spiders. Atlantis is known
as a mystery lost city of long ago that was said to be far advanced, I
think the name for this was appropriate, it's far advanced beyone all
stupid smart washers.
60's Maytag washer
fantastic styling with the fluorescent lighting on back panel. I do not
know how much the seller wants for this, they said to make an offer. I
would guess they are looking for at least a few hundred maybe more. They
know it's vintage and worth something. They also have an old speed queen
dryer that also has some awesome style. They are both white.
Check these out.
They are in Palm Springs. I would have bought this but I just found a
Maytag Atlantis set. How do I make a both happy and sad face emoji?
Harvest gold will come back
are starting to look real boring and like big blocks of unfinished metal
standing there in a nicely decorated room. The 70's will be coming back in
Harvest gold Maytag washer and dryer for only
$20 is a steal that is if you can
even get the seller to respond to you. I asked if these units were
upstairs. No response. That was by email. Try texting or calling. If these
units were nearby I would have bought them. Moving costs are always a
factor. Would have added $350 and then I still don't know how much I'd
have to put into any repairs.
Magtag Neptune washer fantastic buy
The following link I checked on 8/14/2019 and it
appears that the ad was flagged for removal. Was it a scam? Here's what I
had wrote about it. I should just post snapshots of pages. Pardon any
other bad links if they occur I only have so much "high efficiency".
If you live near
Temecula / Murietta and looking for a used washer this front load appears
to be in
barely used and only $225. If you can lift it onto your truck the guy says
he can help. I really don't think you would ever find a better bargain
than this for a front loader. All the used Neptunes and other brands I
have seen are much more used and worn and bearings going out is a big
problem with a used front loader thus since my budget is low I cannot get
a newer one. I would probably buy this one if I lived out there. To move
this Neptune would cost me as much as $300 so that puts the cost around
$525. Still need a dryer so that would add another $300 totaling $825. If
I lived there I could have it moved for $150 or less or like I said if you
can move it with your pickup and friends you really have a deal I think. I
can get a real good condition top load set washer and the dryer in Maytag
for about $600. I decided on top load Maytag and I think I found the set I
want. Note: Neptune washer door should always be left ajar though to let
the air in so that it doesn't get moldy as all these front loaders have
that problem. It will help keep your spider from eroding as well. One more
thing remember that these ones with digital panels can be a bit more
problematic and require a bit more service than top loaders from days past
with those old fashioned turn knobs that are mechanical where you hear the
clicking sound. That sound annoys some thus the move to digitally
controlled round knobs that are very quiet.
Staber top load front load action washer
Made in the USA
almost completely of stainless steel
has to be the most unique. It's got a hex tub like a front loader in how
it washes but it top loads. The belt is grooved. Made fantastic. But the
price OMG. I saw one used for $40.
Samsung dryer belts "break all the time"?
In looking for washer I see this deal on offerup
for a beautiful grey front load washer and dryer for only $650 or best
offer. The ad mentions "we upgraded to a bigger size". I ask seller what
year it is they say 2018. I think wow that's only a year old. In the ad
though it says the dryer belt is broken. Ok I figure that's an easy fix
washer bearing is huge repair so it wouldn't cost much and it seems fair
they upgraded and that's why they bought two new units. Then I figure best
to go to Youtube and I find a repair guy talk about this exact same model
even the same color and he says the belts break all the time. His video
shows how very hard it is to get to the belt. I decide to pass on the set.
I think the sellers were tired of constantly repairing it, I would bet the
washer had issues at times as well as in looking at videos for that they
seem to be not worthy of my hard earned ENERGY $$. Washer video shows it
"needs to be calibrated" when new. HUH? And heavy duty wash takes ONE HOUR
AND 56 MINUTES. Insane.
The Lowes website showed a picture of a
"sanitize cycle" with it filled like almost half way with water. I find
this hard to believe that much water would be used in this cycle. I guess
the thermometer indicates it heats up the water. If it does use this much
water I would want to always use this cycle but if it gets too hot then it
presents a quandry about doing my laundry and ALL THAT ENERGY USED to heat
the water since electricity uses more of my ENERGY $$ than natural gas
Customer's bad experience with Maytag Neptune
front loader compared to the old top loader
in 4 years there were so many repairs at such great expense whereas the
older Maytag went 25 years before it needed any repair. Someone please
calculate how much energy is wasted in all these repairs. Money does not
grow on wind farms. It takes energy to make money so this is the most
wasteful form of energy losses and no one in the United States is doing
anything about it. We need appliances that use HEAT GENERATING motors to
be made strong and reliable once again. Demand this from your House
representatives, Senators, President. This client says he or she paid
$1200 for the newer washer and $1600 for repairs. That is a lot of energy
wasted. Then we have politicians demanding we use more energy dollars to
make wind energy that draws power from
the grid. Someone is making out big. Energy company salaries and
pensions are some of the most fabulous in the universe.
New refrigerators are smarter than new washers
In continuing my search for a new used washer
and dissatisfied with spending $1000 for a front loader that basically
"dry cleans" the clothes as it uses so little water I noticed some
refrigerators with those windows you can see inside that black out and are
touch screen computer systems that will serve you a frozen TV dinner while
you sit and realized basically that refrigerator is still pretty much like
how it's always been. It doesn't make the temperature 59 degrees to "save
energy" it still lets you keep things cold. Washers now are so bent on
using less water they almost don't use any. This makes for less clean
clothes typically while giving you more headaches, making you do wash
twice sometimes, making you drive to work more to make more money to pay
for the repair bills, all adding up to more wasted energy than before.
Refrigerators don't act this way even the new ones. The new ones in being
"more efficient" merely are more efficient without changing the core
function of how they are supposed to do something for you instead of you
doing something for it.
Berkely California bans natural gas in new
This is claimed to
be a save the universe climate changee thingee but in the end it could be
that it's all about
charging you more for electricity.
Natural gas is very efficient and inexpensive. Since typically what
happens in California spreads in California like those plastic bag bans
that now provide plastic bags at 10 cents each that are 8 times thicker
and are still used as trash bags, thus creating more plastic waste than
ever, I think we can most certainly expect that this liberal ideal will
make it's way to the deserts unfortunately causing more energy to be used
as it takes energy to pay higher prices for energy.
Put away that bug spray
We find out that
Roundup causes cancer, I have pretty much known this since the 1970's when my cat was
poisoned by similar toxic bug sprays used commonly in people's yards. The
neighbor had the best yard in the neighborhood because they used all the
yard chemicals imaginable. I was lucky, my
cat recovered with vet prescribed liquid vitamins and rest, but I never
forgot about the horrors that pesticides can impose on life. Ever since I have been very cautious about all chemicals that kill
anything. Basically if it can kill bugs it can kill blood cells, and
warnings are dire on all of these products yet people use them like they
are safe as apple pie sometimes. Thus as much as it bugs me to shop for a
shopping for a new washing machine was particularly bug infested, as I never realized I'd be thinking about
spiders in washers, many, many, many spiders in washers. All front loaders have spiders.
Over time they get especially ugly and you never really see how ugly they
get, but you will smell it and you can not make it like new again. If you
do all the sanitizing you can and it still smells this is why, it's coated
with gunk as it corrodes.
snapshot credit YouTube user All My Hobbies
They corrode because they are all made of
cheap to manufacture aluminum. It
will bug you when your fairly new like 4 year old front loader starts to
make noises as the tub goes out of round. Most warranties are only for
about one year on labor and "lifetime" on the tub. Most companies will
with some run around replace a tub assembly with the spider attached under
warranty but you will be responsible for labor cost which can be $500 or
more. Most people just go buy a new one and the thing ends up in the trash
heaps which in society now are reaching to the moon a place we have only
visited in our imaginations. I am guessing that all the energy wasted on
manufacture, transport of new and old "trash heap" washers, is all using
more energy than when we created that old reliable Maytag* that lasted 40
years. Today's front loaders sometimes only last 5 years. That's 8 times more
washers manufactured and 8 times more trucks shipping them to stores and
moving them out of homes. Think about all that energy wasted. Has anyone
calculated all that energy? If we are all as planetary residents to be
concerned about energy use I think we need to again make things that last.
*Maygag is NOT what it used to be when they were
made in America. Maytag is now built basically using the same parts as
Whirlpool for at least the last 10 years. They are now all made in China.
One new washer is NOT pet friendly
Buyer beware GE
front loader according to
the door seal is not smooth and it attracts pet hair and it's so bad it's
nearly impossible to clean.
Does the HE stand for Horribly Excruciating? They
don't add enough water. Sometimes the wash has to be done twice. They
waste so much time doing nothing. Time is money. Money is energy. It's 70
times faster for me to wash using my $1 method using ZERO electricity.
I bought a new washer for only $1
Old one broke so instead of fixing it I replaced
it with a brand new one.
Smart vacuum is stupider than my broom
Robot vacuum made a mess worse than the mess made by the puppy. This
is typical of why all smart appliances are stupid. If I turn my broom on
it will just sit there, or if I give it a push it won't spread dog poo all
over the floor nor will it eat dog s*^t like an automated vacuum will.
It's 2019 and they can't even make these "smart" things smell poop and
stay away from it like a broom will. You can keep them. I can buy a broom
for $1. These stupid smart robots cost hundreds. Give that money to help
the homeless instead of to rich industrialists.
New smart stupid washer agitates without water
Someone please explain why we are told to evenly distribute our clothes in
a top loading washer and then in the year 2019 where everything is now
"smart" it is programmed to move the clothes around into a ball.
I never in my wildest dreams thought I would ever see a washer agitate
with no water in it by design. If you continue watching you see at least
it can fill the tub with real water and not imaginary ECO water.
Then there's this stupid
smart washer that adds 2 blips of water just enough to unbalance the
clothes then it clicks about 4 times then starts spinning before doing any
washing. These washers are a joke. They are like kids toys. They are all
made in a communist country to boot. Why are we supporting communism?
Something truly is amiss here. And how is it energy efficient to have
washers made on the other side of the world and shipped on non-wind farm
powered ships? I guess we will make ships with batteries and pinwheels and
that will save us soon. We are living in fantasy land with all this save
Another thing to watch out for in making a selection is the center
agitator in many of these have that spiral that is a design in many older
washers that turned in one direction only so as to help pull down clothes.
These ones go back and forth which pulls down clothes a little then as it
reverses it pushes them back up a little. This makes no sense.
Purple Kitchen Aid fridge
Sold fast online.
If you have an old appliance that's taking too long to sell, change it's
color. I painted a refrigerator black once before you could even find any
appliance painted that color and that thing flew out the door in seconds.
Ever notice there a "d" in "fridge" and not in "refrigerator"?
Don't buy that portable room air conditioner yet
Not without knowing that most of them are incredibly inefficient, their
BTU rating is no where near what they claim, and use double the power a
window air conditioner would use and
learning why and which one is the
ONLY ONE you should get
7.1 earthquake in Mojave Desert California
Don't let earthquakes, floods,
wildfires, and armageddon stop you from buying a desert home and living in
some of the most wonderful places on the planet as some homes were damaged in the zone
120 miles away from Los Angeles and Palm Springs. We were just
shaken and not stirred. Quake details at
Electrolux HE washer EFOW317TIW doesn't seem to
fluff clothes at the end
Uses very little water to wash uses a bit more
where it actually sloshes in 2 or 3 rinses but it should fluff the clothes
at the end. It's better for the clothes when they do this and easier to
pull out of the washer. This owner
calls it dirty names.
Type in "washing"
TIP: When looking for a washer and dryer make
sure to also type in "washing" as there are those who use that word
instead of "washer" and since few people type in "washing" you might find
Pressure and venting of dryers
I would guess that 99.9% of the populations does
not know about this warning which was by law posted visibly on an Italian
made washer/dryer combo that is typically used in certain types of homes,
"CAUTION: Open a window or vent when operating dryer. It is dangerous to
create negative air pressure inside a motorhome containing fuel burning
Image was seen
here. Most every
normal home has ways for air to enter when a dryer is running so this is
not an issue. Probably the most common one if a home is all closed up is a
stove hood vent. Another would be a gas water heater vent as there's a big
open space where it could suck in air** possibly besides all
the little cracks everywhere that can let air in which is exactly what
happens when a dryer is being used in a home as it pushes out all that
air. Never ever ever vent a gas dryer inside a home for heat as there are
**though one has to wonder if this is the only
way for a home to allow air in for that dryer what happens then when the
water heater turns on and is buring natural gas is the hot air and fumes
making their way into the house then?
GE dual action agitator agitates me
I will not buy a new washer I don't like any of
them even though most will basically wash clothes and get them cleaner
than they were I don't feel they do a good enough job, they waste energy,
are too slow and stupid with their smart technology, and require a service
technician to live in your home with you. In looking at the GE agitator
model latest incarnations as recent as 2019 I learned that the tub moves
back and forth, something a tub should not do, and get this, the agitator
works against itself. This looks like those spin agitator types that pull
down clothes but it does not.
The lower fins of all agitators push water out
to the sides of the tub which has for over 80 years of washing machines
caused the clothes to go up and to center which then gets pulled back down
to those fins. The addition of those spiral ones that notch and turn in a
circle pull clothes down but they may also tangle clothes. This one that
is in the GE forces water back down and back up in the same spot, thus
fighting against that motion from the lower fins. This is just a bad
design yet it will still get clothes reasonably clean for the mere fact
that salty water pulls dirt away from clothes like rain rinses a driveway
as it pulls dirt away from concrete.
GE Profile washer recall fire hazard
These have an odd design back panel. They are top
load. September 16, 2016
Someone pleeeze Make America's Washers Great
Again. I think I will put this logo on a red baseball cap and while eating
at a restaurant video tape people getting all hell bent with me about
wanting to Make America's Washers Great Again as they tell me washers were
The customer review at Best Buy said she
couldn't get the bad smell out after washing in the new unit. Says now she
has to rewash 2 - 4 times for it to clean. That is because it uses 2
tablespoons of water. All these new washers are crap. Call on congress and
see if they will listen to you they don't with anything else. They made
these water saving laws that waste energy and the time we could use to
build the homeless homes or at least see a good movie which that too is
not made well anymore.
Whirlpool F/L washer tub assembly
Priced this at $900. OMG.
New washer 2 years old and needs service
posted here. Seems a washer WM3270CW should work longer than that to need
energy wasting service. Old Maytags used to last for decades without
service. La Salle's ran great. Horses even loved you back.
Used Kitchen Aid washer & dryer in black
these washers are basically the same as Kenmore, Whirlpool, Roper wearing
different outfits. They are easiest to repair over the GE and Maytag.
It was like sticking my finger in an electrical
outlet. I saw an ad on Offer Up featuring a Samsung front loader brand new
for $539 the cheapest price anywhere but you go to their website and
delivery is not free, you are not allowed to pick up at store, and
shipping is almost $300. It's only an hour drive. So this makes this
"discounted" washer higher in price than a brand new, installed, with
hoses, with 5 year extended warranty making it 6 years warranted one
that's currently on sale at Best Buy. No wonder Sears just keeps losing
WM3500CW LG 27" 4.5 cu. ft. Ultra Large Capacity
Smart WiFi Enabled Front Load Washer with 6 Motion Technology and
What's dumb about this washer is that you can
barely read the screen if at all. It's around $900 and you would think
that they would have enough smart technology somewhere in a desk drawer or
even behind a corporate restroom paper towlel dispenser to have designed
it so you can SEE IT.
If you want to spend a lot on an LG washer that
missed that mark you can purchase it
here and I would get a commission maybe. I am not even going to post a
photo as I can't get past not being able to read the display. It's like
all these "smart web pages" that make the type
like this so you can't read it and want to go somewhere else, like
even a library to get a book or news paper which has old fashioned
non-smart black type that can be read.
Instead maybe get this GE
A GE front load
GFW450SSMWW might be a better choice though I have seen some reviews
that say they can shake a lot. Make sure shipping bolts and cushioning
inside are removed. This could be an issue if you just load it onto a
truck and bring home yourself. If delivered they always remove these bolts
which frees up the tub so it's suspended on springs and shock absorbers. I
absolutely LOVE the control panel on this it's fantastic and easy to read.
Starts around $650. I think adjusting the water level vacuum sensor could
solve that spoon full of sugar coated water saving issue.
or this Samsung which has a nice
easy to read display better than any other because of the tilt/angle which
makes more sense than any of these others which are just vertical and this
one has a nice clear glass because who doesn't want to see the soothing
motion of your clothes washing and the different colors. Why on earth
would you want to smoke it out.
Notice that little square box at the bottom of these. This is in the newer
models now for access to the "trap" which can catch coins or jewelry and
such and give you ease of access for cleaning this out. It used to be you
had to with the older models call for service to handle when this would
get clogged and not drain properly as the entire unit had to be opened up
Squeaking brake sound
In looking at a used washer today I asked to plug the thing in and turned
it on in wash mode. It was not connected to water so I put my ear against
the top lid and heard a slight buzzing which told me it was opening the
solenoid so water would go in. Ok, next test is to see if it spins, turned
it into spin and it started, reasonably fine, right speed, but the machine
wobbled as it was not level. Tried to hold it level and that helped so it
seemed fair for an old washer but when I turned off the spin cycle it
stopped with a sudden braking motion and squealed. That means it would
need a complete disassembly to get to that brake pad. Not worth buying.
There might be an ugly spider in your washer but don't get out the
toxic bug spray
Before I explain about this little bug, notice that these newest front load washers for most of the population are heavy
duty in their "high efficiency" design so they use less water than ever
and this can be a problem in quality of how well clothes get clean. As
energy savings becomes more than a priority but rather a necessity
mandated by government and we are seeing how it's inconveniencing us as we
do one load of wash a second time so that it's actually kinda clean, which
now takes then 4 hours to do one load of wash, another matter is how long
these machines are now lasting with out repair or throwing them in the
dump or dumping them off at a thrift store so it's someone elses problem.
I just learned these stores are not taking them any more because of this
Making an appliance last for 30 years like old Maytags and other brands
did when they were built in the United States is also now becoming a
necessity for saving energy. Right now almost all machines that are for
home use purposely use a cheap and low efficiency spider arm.
This is mounted on the steel tub in the back, you never see this unless
it's disassembled, and it has the shaft for which the entire thing rides
on. These things get pitted and disintegrate over time becaues they are
made of aluminum. As they deterioriate in a mere 4 years or so they can
cause a machine front load tub to be out of balance. The cost to repair is
about $800 or more. When that happens likely out of any extended warranty,
you will just throw it out or sell it for a hundred dollars to some
This is the spider arm on the back of the higher quality tub, this one is made out of stainless
steel, solid, strong, truly lasts
a lifetime. This particular one is on an old washer more than 10 years
old. It's not scary or ugly. Wait till you see one that is not as old and
is 2500 times more scary. All the spider arms in your home front loaders
out of aluminum. They get pitted and erode like old cars in Detroit
winters and cause
balance issues. They are in the back where it stays wet, accumulating
soap, lint, dog hair, and mold which all gets stuck back there with soap
residue where the sun never shines and the metal then slowly rots. One
thing that can help prevent this is always keep the washer door open to
let air flow through though that then presents another problem,
accidentally hitting the door.
Snapshot of a pitted disintegrationg aluminum spider arm in a Samsung
washer. The producer of the film says don't buy a Samsung but they are all
subject to this damage.
The energy lost due to the short life of all of these front load machines is immense because of this one
flaw in that the entire
machine will be thrown in the dump when this happens in many cases if they
do not become someone else's problem. It takes a lot of
energy to build these things, process and clean parts in maufacture, etc.
and it's obscene the energy that is being wasted because they don't last.
Let's all get on Congress to make 1,000 other new laws that will fix this
problem which was created by their other laws, round and round we go.
New GE jackhammer washer
Pretty noisy. One comment
stated to remove the transit bolts. If those are not removed there would
be no dampening with springs and shock absorbers. Must be that. He
probably picked up the unit and installed himself without removing those.
The design of the panel on this unit looks best to me for a lower priced
washer easy to read has presoak and other features. But wait there's more
if you buy one today on tomorrow's date you might watch
this video and be really
disappointed you bought it.
24 minutes into a wash cycle before bedding got soaked
It's the consumer and taxpayer that's now getting soaked regularly and
efficiently and at lightning speed. As we look at this demonstration of an
Electrolux model EFLW317TIW we see
it's not until 24 minutes in that the bedding gets enough water on it
so that it flattens down about half what it was, and not until about 30
minutes in for it to be about 1/3 flattened and even then it's still not
even sloshing around in water. There is a certain principle of disolving
of dirt that cannot occur when there is no solution for it to dissolve in.
It's like these new "high efficiency" almost waterless devices have
completely discarded this principle. If the bedding demonstrated here was
filthy like if it was on a bed or floor where dogs routinely walked on and
laid down on after being outside in the rain and mud, there is NO WAY this
would come out clean without at least a 2nd full wash or even a 3rd which
could get into taking 4 hours to accomplish. Maybe what you could do is
instead of using fabric softener add a 2nd serving of detergent to that
and call for an extra rinse. Note this unit sure sounds loud when it
Plastic clothes are energy efficient
I don't know how politicians are going to get the world off of fossil
fuels and create energy efficiency as they promote absurd ideas like the
"Green New Deal" which calls for an end of the use of petroleum based
products. How exactly are they going to ban clothes? Almost all fabric now
is made from fossil fuels. Is government going to mandate we all use
cotton? Sorry there are no more cotton fields left they have been paved
over by office parks by tech firms that make plastic computers and wiring
as the computer industry that is producing all these "smart" energy
problem solving devices are all made from petroleum. Polyester fabric is
made from petroleum. It can be easily produced in mass quantities and at
home it can be washed by hand and let to drip dry and it dries fast - note
the popular term "wicking" used to describe this process. The energy
savings in doing this beats wrecking our landscapes with disgusiting wind
turbines that power 150,000 homes as they lie with their claims, turbines
which also use fossil fuels. I bet you did not know that, wind energy uses
petroleum and electricity from the grid.
Huh. I did not know that.
There are a lot of used washers out there. Looking at a beautiful front
load set I saw the small business was offering a 90 warranty on parts and
labor with one year of labor covered. Sounds great. Not so fast. Consider
that with all of these used front loaders sold at a business that within
90 days to the 1 year is up that if the bearings going out on the tub that
you would be hung up to dry. Here's how it goes, you hear a slight
grinding noise after you buy them that concerns you, you call them they
say it's normal for a used unit they cannot fix it as it's normal and the
machine still works and does clothes and spins, then coming on 11 months
into your purchase, you call them as you know warranty period would be
ending soon and the grinding is getting bad and, they say gladly they they
will handle labor but you will pay for parts. You figure that's fine you
are thrilled as you know bearings are like $20, they come out look at it
and listen, then tell you you need to get a whole new tub, you ask what is
that cost, they tell you $500. You are surprised and tell them it just
needs new bearings and they say they cannot replace just the bearings as
the spider web surely would be bad and and they don't just replace the
spider web and bearings as then it would need factory rebalancing and it's
cheaper to just get an entire tub replacement and tell them you don't want
to spend that much on your used washer that could break again and then you
cry and scream and end up hauling it to the dump because it's also cheaper
to buy another used washer from a used appliance store as the whole set
was only $900 plus $90 sales tax. So you again want a matching set and you
sell the dryer for $200 as dryers are not worth that much. You are out
$790. You find another new set and notice your sales tax is another $10 as
you gleefully voted for that additional sales tax "a mere penny" which
just came out to 10,000% more than one penny, and as you look at your
checkbook you see you have just spent about $800 for a washer that lasted
one year and as you sit in frustration you realize you would have been
better off buying a new washer on sale for $751 that includes tax and
delivery and installation and new hoses and an extended 5 year warranty
and you settle with an old Kenmore dryer for $100 that repairs are never
more than $50 or so and they hardly break anyway or to just keep that non
matching dryer, but oh no, you had to have that beautiful matching set
when you first started shopping for a used front load washer and dryer so
instead it turns out you gave up another beautiful thing you wanted which
could have been a night out for dinner with some one new in your life 8
times, new clothes, short little vacation trip, and donation to that
wonderful pet rescue as you instead sit and gaze at how beautiful your
matching dryer was that you are now waiting to be picked up by that buyer
as you dish out another $1,000 for a used set that matches and could again
see a washer go bad after a year and then you rinse and repeat yet again
and again as you realize that insanity is doing the same thing over and
over again expecting a different resulty you consider investing wisely in
a new front load washer without that matching dryer instead of a used one
for this reason that you might just end up wasting $800 for a washer that
lasts you only one year which is a whopping $66.666666 per month spent on
something evil. When I priced out a low end new front loader with 5 year
extended warranty which actually is added to the manufacturer's warranty
meaning more like 6 years or 7 the new washer costs a mere $12.52 per
month the only problem though with these is they use 2 tablespoons of
water and don't get the clothes clean but there is a
fix for this. Another matter to
consider though is that gettin someone out to service the thing could be
frustrating. I read on the Home Depot site their service plan the washer
owner went through Hell days and weeks go by as they had to get approval,
wait for confirmation, wait for the repair to be referred, wait for call
from them, wait for a repair guy to even show up, lots and lots of red
tape with no bleach in sight to make the tape sparkling white. On a new LG
machine the display was designed so hard to read one reviewer said braile
would be better.
Roper top load rinse level is super low
New washers are harder on clothes in a way
Water acts as a cushion so whith all these 2019 washers that are designed
by politicians instead of engineers they are harder on clothes. The extra
water would ad buoyancy and cushion to the clothes and take the weight off
them thus allowing easier agitation, less pull and tearing, and gets out
more soil. The older front loaders would allow much more water in them. We
are at the point where so little water is being used they are barely
getting clothes clean. What's next for political mandates, dry cleaning?
What ever happened to the renewable resources concept? Water is 100%
The LG 2 year old front loader with fancy dancy electronic
controls that should do your laundry for you would not turn on
The fix was so simple but first the woman had called a service tech who
charged $85 and then said it would cost $500 to repair and it would be
better for her to buy new. Without the internet she would have been
screwed. WATCH but
this guy says his problem would
keep reappearing and it needed a board.
Here's a new Whirlpool jackhammer washer
Guy says it sounded like that
after 3 months. Pretty sad. Says Whirlpool replaced the unbalanced tub
under 1 year warranty. What about next year? Could end up in landfill?
Made in China? When we had washers made in the USA they lasted for
decades. Climate changy thingyers need to support Trump instead of bashing
him if they want to see some real energy efficiency put back into place.
Making things last for so many years saves more energy than all this made
for energy efficienty crapple.
New washers waste tons of energy
They are very complicated electronic devices now so when they break down
which they do many times more frequently than mom's old dependable Maytag
you have to spend a small fortune on repairs. That means more driving for
a repair guy thus causing climate change, more production of parts you
have to replace thus causing climate change, and trips to the laundromat
while you wait a week for the repair guy to come thus causing climate
change. The bigger problem though is these things do not last 20 or 30
years like old washers did so now they end up in the trash after 10 years
or so. Thus we have 2 to 3 times more big machines and their parts
produced and added to landfills and such. Not only that they take like an
hour or more to do a normal load, before it was a half hour.
Maytag Atlantis owner shows where that horrible smell is coming
Running a cycle or two with vinegar and bleach does not solve the problem
because what happens is lint builds up in this top area and stays put.
It's a pretty easy fix though thanks to this fireman who explains it all.
Could save you from buying new units that use tablespoons of water which
you then would have to sell out of frustration looking then for old Maytag
Atlantis that actually use water intstead of the imagination to sell
clothes. You could say this model has a lint trap.
Speed Queen washer tub now spins with agitator
I have never in my life seen such a rediculous design, it's agitating to
see a brand new washer tub looks the same as old models but
the bin spins. It is because of
government meddling with their "energy saving" demands placed on appliance
manufacturers. These laws are as bad as mandated low flush toilets which
waste water as it now takes 5 flushes to do what it did before thus using
100% more water than old toilets. To get a decent result the new appliance
owner will as they find their wash is not coming out as clean they will
choose the longest cycle time or do the wash twice until they can waste
more energy as they get rid of the thing and go get their old one out of
the land fill and restore it or dream every night about doing that if they
can't. You can watch the video here
of a 2018 Speed Queen in action. These are expensive washers and
previously were known as fantastic investments. I would not buy one.
Watch this stain test comparison
before you buy a Speed Queen washer new.
Homeless dryer sits on curb hoping
This dryer will probably find a home faster than many good people
living on the streets and sidewalks of Lost Angeles will. It was put there
at about 1pm in a Southern California neighborhood. Meanwhile many of
those who cross borders illegally will get shelter faster than those
homeless in the streets will. Maybe we could send this homeless dryer to
the shelters so they also have their laundry done for them. It's a Kitchen
Aid so it's certainly got a chance.
This one also is looking for a new home but it has not been put out on
Clothes washer for the desert home
I am shopping online for a used washer as of the 4th of July holidays
2019. I do not want any of the new ones as the better front loaders would
cost about $2,000 which is insane and the lesser priced top loaders are
all crap and break too often and do not wash clothes right thanks to
stupid smart technology, government interference forcing "efficiency
standards" and too much added circuit boards now that fail all too often.
They end up in the trash after a few years which ends up using more energy
I want an old Maytag
I am going to share here some of my finds as some of you might be closer
by to pick these up. I'm way out in the desert near Palm Springs which is
so friggin hot in the summer but still a fantastic place in the world to
live, and the problem is getting them to my desert home. I'm finding that
movers would cost me almost $400. Here's some that I think are great
finds. If I get to them first they are mine. Keep in mind if you want to
do your part to stop so called "climate change" that some say will spin
the Earth off it's orbit into the sun well you can save a lot of energy by
doing it by hand and it's not all that hard really. Stay tuned.
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